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csand (Banned) 5 Sep, 2024 @ 4:50pm
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Protect yourself against cheaters
As you may see from the multitude of threads on the topic, some real cocktail wieners are ruining people's saved games and doing other annoying shenanigans.


*It is possible for some tryhard cheaters to bypass the Steam blocklist. This was a well kept secret for awhile but it seems it's out in the open now. Voice your concern to Bandai/From/and Valve, it is a combined f**kup from them that allows this (EAC Linux/Prton implmentatio nis worthless)

WHY IS THIS HAPPENING

For the vast majority of cheaters you will see, you can thank Valve and Fromsoft for their combined f**k up - EAC is worthless on Linux/Proton.


FIRST BACK UP YOUR SAVE

The best thing you can do is backup your save file. It takes the pain in butt from "my game is ruined" to "I lost a couple hours' progress".

Simplest way to do it is just to copy your save file before you play or after. Elden Ring wiki has good instructions:

https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Save+Data+Backup+Management

Personally I use Onedrive, so I made a folder junction in my documents folder to my Elden Ring save. OneDrive gives you 30 days of file history, so you can restore your save from any point in the last 30 days:

https://winaero.com/sync-any-folder-onedrive-windows-10/

There are other methods too, such as:
- Nexus mods have a bunch of apps people have made for backing up and managing save files
- make a scheduled task on login that runs a batch file to copy the save file automatically


REPORTING DING DONGS

If you got your game screwed up in this way, gather as much info as you can:
- the offender's Steam ID/profile link
- footage
- screenshots
- note the time and date it happened

Renember to block the offender on Steam as well. This will prevent the majority of them from connecting to you in the future.

If you have footage, you will need to upload it as an unlisted video to Youtube.
https://www.guidingtech.com/upload-private-and-unlisted-videos-on-youtube

File a report with Bandai (outside of Japan) or Fromsoft (in Japan, or even if not), for what it's worth.

Include as much information as you can and be polite. Include:
- what happened
- time and date
- name of the offender's character (if possible)
- the offender's steamID and profile link (you can get this from the "recent players" list in Steam overlay)
- also let them know that EAC is broken in Linux.

Bandai USA:
https://support.bandainamcoent.com/

Bandai EU:
https://service-en.bandainamcoent.eu/

Fromsoft:
https://www2.fromsoftware.jp/p/main/inquiry/annoyance/

*If you are reporting to Fromsoft and not from Japan, have your browser translate the page for you. It will ask for your name in phonetic. Go here to do that:
https://nihongotools.com/foreign-name-to-japanese-name-converter/


Use Google translate or whatever to write a very clear and concise message, and paste it into your report on Fromsoft's page. Avoid fancy language so the translation is clear for them.


WHAT ELSE

Sometimes what looks like cheating, is just latency. Fromsoft's less-than-optimal networking job in Elden Ring doesn't help.

I suggest this great tool to show you other players' latency. Just block high latency players you meet on Steam.
https://github.com/tremwil/SteamP2PInfo

If you read this far, also go to my profile and look at the single group I am a member of. Use that information to help yourself (and others!)
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Alby (Banned) 5 Sep, 2024 @ 4:53pm 
Based and csand-pilled
Espartano_X118 5 Sep, 2024 @ 5:22pm 
Originally posted by csand:
As you may see from the multitude of threads on the topic, some real cocktail wieners are ruining people's saved games and doing other annoying shenanigans.


WHY IS THIS HAPPENING

Well, the main reason is that Fromsoft did a bad job of implementing EAC on Linux, thus making it basically useless. There are of course other ways to bypass EAC, but the botched Linux implementation makes it very easy. This appears to affect Armored Core 6 as well.

If Fromsoft fixed this, it wouldn't eliminate all cheaters, but it would eliminate a large chunk of them.


FIRST BACK UP YOUR SAVE

The best thing you can do is backup your save file. It takes the pain in butt from "my game is ruined" to "I lost a couple hours' progress".

Simplest way to do it is just to copy your save file before you play or after. Elden Ring wiki has good instructions:

https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Save+Data+Backup+Management

Personally I use Onedrive, so I made a folder junction in my documents folder to my Elden Ring save. OneDrive gives you 30 days of file history, so you can restore your save from any point in the last 30 days:

https://winaero.com/sync-any-folder-onedrive-windows-10/

There are other methods too, such as:
- Nexus mods have a bunch of apps people have made for backing up and managing save files
- make a scheduled task on login that runs a batch file to copy the save file automatically


REPORTING DING DONGS

If you got your game screwed up in this way, gather as much info as you can:
- the offender's Steam ID/profile link
- footage
- screenshots
- note the time and date it happened

Renember to block the offender on Steam as well. This will prevent them from connecting to you in the future.

If you have footage, you will need to upload it as an unlisted video to Youtube.
https://www.guidingtech.com/upload-private-and-unlisted-videos-on-youtube

File a report with Bandai (outside of Japan) or Fromsoft (in Japan, or even if not), for what it's worth.

Include as much information as you can and be polite. Include:
- what happened
- time and date
- name of the offender's character (if possible)
- the offender's steamID and profile link (you can get this from the "recent players" list in Steam overlay)
- also let them know that EAC is broken in Linux.

Bandai USA:
https://support.bandainamcoent.com/

Bandai EU:
https://service-en.bandainamcoent.eu/

Fromsoft:
https://www2.fromsoftware.jp/p/main/inquiry/annoyance/

*If you are reporting to Fromsoft and not from Japan, have your browser translate the page for you. It will ask for your name in phonetic. Go here to do that:
https://japanesenameconverter.nolanlawson.com/

Use Google translate or whatever to write a very clear and concise message, and paste it into your report on Fromsoft's page. Avoid fancy language so the translation is clear for them.


WHAT ELSE

Sometimes what looks like cheating, is just latency. Fromsoft's less-than-optimal networking job in Elden Ring doesn't help.

I suggest this great tool to show you other players' latency. Just block high latency players you meet on Steam.
https://github.com/tremwil/SteamP2PInfo

Really amazing inf guide bro:praisesun:
Key 5 Sep, 2024 @ 10:03pm 
Great job, this would deserve to be pinned, but all we can do is give this a bumperino every now and then.
lolschrauber 5 Sep, 2024 @ 11:49pm 
The fact that cheaters even can ruin your savegame in the first place is so messed up.

Remember the same crap in borderlands 2
⛧Vinn⛧ 6 Sep, 2024 @ 3:05am 
Dont go online without your protection, always bring a condom
Faust Wither 6 Sep, 2024 @ 3:11am 
Originally posted by ⛧Vinn⛧:
Dont go online without your protection, always bring a condom
Bring a package of it just in case for extra rounds.
⛧Vinn⛧ 6 Sep, 2024 @ 3:32am 
Originally posted by Faust Wither:
Originally posted by ⛧Vinn⛧:
Dont go online without your protection, always bring a condom
Bring a package of it just in case for extra rounds.
True. Better safe than sorry. Sometimes a longer session requires further protection.
Zogtar 6 Sep, 2024 @ 5:25am 
Remember, if you're thinking of migrating to the ps5... We also have cheaters.
Marmarmar34 6 Sep, 2024 @ 6:25am 
"But cheaters can't ruin saves. Fromsoft patched it!"☝️🤓
Faust Wither 6 Sep, 2024 @ 7:32am 
Originally posted by Marmarmar34:
"But cheaters can't ruin saves. Fromsoft patched it!"☝️🤓

And me be like; https://youtu.be/ztVMib1T4T4?si=mODZpRkXtsfc0iUW
⛧Vinn⛧ 7 Sep, 2024 @ 11:10am 
Originally posted by csand:
Bump cause more and more people are getting these cheaters
well... less and less people buy condoms so..
Señor Brown 9 Sep, 2024 @ 5:10pm 
Is there any way to pin this post to the first page of these forums? It would do a lot more good if people can see this before they run into those cheaters.
Absolute_Dakka 9 Sep, 2024 @ 8:10pm 
Excellent post. Well done, and thank you.
Toast 9 Sep, 2024 @ 11:21pm 
Have a doot :praisesun:
Sorry for disturbing everyone in here, but it looks like it's about time this thread deserves a bump. The more you know, the better.
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