Why are you automatically assuming that we laughed or thought that it was fine?

Those of us (even ones who aren't fans of guns) who have basic intelligence and critical thinking skills understood that it was constitutionally unsound.

We already have a megathread about this, people posting dozens of threads about it will only cause more people to side with visa/mc as it's becoming spam.

Here's the original megathread about this discussion;
https://steamproxy-script.pipiskins.com/discussions/forum/0/601910081412430040/

Originally posted by Mad Scientist:

We already have a megathread about this, people posting dozens of threads about it will only cause more people to side with visa/mc as it's becoming spam.

Here's the original megathread about this discussion;
https://steamproxy-script.pipiskins.com/discussions/forum/0/601910081412430040/

Hmm, I just searched the first 3 pages with debanking as a keyword and it's not in that thread. Thank you for you back seat moderating, but you appear to have missed the mark here as there is literally nothing about debanking gun sales in the thread you referenced.

Check the link you posted, perhaps you made a mistake.

Originally posted by DeadSlash:

Originally posted by Mad Scientist:

We already have a megathread about this, people posting dozens of threads about it will only cause more people to side with visa/mc as it's becoming spam.

Here's the original megathread about this discussion;
https://steamproxy-script.pipiskins.com/discussions/forum/0/601910081412430040/

Hmm, I just searched the first 3 pages with debanking as a keyword and it's not in that thread. Thank you for you back seat moderating, but you appear to have missed the mark here as there is literally nothing about debanking gun sales in the thread you referenced.

Check the link you posted, perhaps you made a mistake.

The thread covers the entirety of the visa/mc situation.

Anything else, especially political, belongs in Off-Topic.

Originally posted by Mad Scientist:

Originally posted by DeadSlash:

Hmm, I just searched the first 3 pages with debanking as a keyword and it's not in that thread. Thank you for you back seat moderating, but you appear to have missed the mark here as there is literally nothing about debanking gun sales in the thread you referenced.

Check the link you posted, perhaps you made a mistake.

The thread covers the entirety of the visa/mc situation.

Anything else, especially political, belongs in Off-Topic.

But it doesn't though. I appreciate your energy and deep commitment to moderating the Steam Forums, but it's not up to you to determine, for example, only one thread may be allowed on the Duke Nukem forums because "It's all basically about Duke Nukem."

Thanks for your input, again, I appreciate your passion for playing the role of moderator, but you are not. I'm sorry.

PS. If you have any further replies, could you please simply edit you prior post with the new information? I feel like you are kind of cluttering the thread, just saying the same thing over and over that has already been said. Thanks.

The irony is this has nothing to do with banks or debarking so of course the OP isn't going to find people talking about debarking. It's truly astounding that people don't know the difference between banks and payment processors.

Remember when nobody cared because taking away somebody's guns and their right to protect themselves is a lot different than taking away their smut simply because of platform doesn't want to be all about that anymore like it has been for the last few years?

remember when trump said take the guns and have due process later? i do. remember when trump signed that phony bologna bill banning bump stocks and turning millions of us gun owners into felons over night? i do. i understand that banks are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ terrible, but dont go throwing your political biases or views around while the other guys or the other side for that matter is just as ♥♥♥♥♥♥

Originally posted by =^.^= Bigshow:

remember when trump said take the guns and have due process later? i do. remember when trump signed that phony bologna bill banning bump stocks and turning millions of us gun owners into felons over night? i do. i understand that banks are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ terrible, but dont go throwing your political biases or views around while the other guys or the other side for that matter is just as ♥♥♥♥♥♥

This genuinely has nothing to do with Trump. Just because the Biden administration pioneered "debanking" doesn't require some Trump equivalent. Republicans historically have been anti-video game violence, so they are not the "heroes" here, but it doesn't change the fact that this tactic was developed and employed by the Biden admin.

Originally posted by Truth:

The irony is this has nothing to do with banks or debarking so of course the OP isn't going to find people talking about debarking. It's truly astounding that people don't know the difference between banks and payment processors.

Yeah, except it does though. Taking away access to something you don't want people to have by end-arounding the law to prevent them from buying it? Sounds like the same thing to me. It's literally the exact same concept, but inserted into a different stage of the process.

Originally posted by Cryptic:

Remember when nobody cared because taking away somebody's guns and their right to protect themselves is a lot different than taking away their smut simply because of platform doesn't want to be all about that anymore like it has been for the last few years?

I agree that this is fundamentally far less serious than preventing people from buying firearms, but the precedent is dangerous. It's gross games today, and tomorrow we find out that FPS games are considered gross too.
If this had simply been a choice by Valve to move away from these games, that would be a different story, however, we know that isn't the case.

Dismissing this as "well that was gross anyway, who cares?" is problematic because who knows what is next? What is the next thing enough people agree is "gross?" Maybe it's the animal cruelty in Pokemon, or the satanic imagery of Diablo or Doom, or dangerous message of reckless driving in cart racers.

My profile is public, I don't own any of these games and I made threads about how pissed I was when they started populating my Queue with these gross ass games. They are gross and trash, but as the ACLU used to understand, it's a slippery slope when you start shutting things down because "the majority of us don't like it anyway." This is a terrible flex from payment providers and genuinely lol directly @yourface if you think it just stops here.

Originally posted by DeadSlash:

Originally posted by =^.^= Bigshow:

remember when trump said take the guns and have due process later? i do. remember when trump signed that phony bologna bill banning bump stocks and turning millions of us gun owners into felons over night? i do. i understand that banks are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ terrible, but dont go throwing your political biases or views around while the other guys or the other side for that matter is just as ♥♥♥♥♥♥

This genuinely has nothing to do with Trump. Just because the Biden administration pioneered "debanking" doesn't require some Trump equivalent. Republicans historically have been anti-video game violence, so they are not the "heroes" here, but it doesn't change the fact that this tactic was developed and employed by the Biden admin.

Originally posted by Truth:

The irony is this has nothing to do with banks or debarking so of course the OP isn't going to find people talking about debarking. It's truly astounding that people don't know the difference between banks and payment processors.

Yeah, except it does though. Taking away access to something you don't want people to have by end-arounding the law to prevent them from buying it? Sounds like the same thing to me. It's literally the exact same concept, but inserted into a different stage of the process.

Originally posted by Cryptic:

Remember when nobody cared because taking away somebody's guns and their right to protect themselves is a lot different than taking away their smut simply because of platform doesn't want to be all about that anymore like it has been for the last few years?

I agree that this is fundamentally far less serious than preventing people from buying firearms, but the precedent is dangerous. It's gross games today, and tomorrow we find out that FPS games are considered gross too.
If this had simply been a choice by Valve to move away from these games, that would be a different story, however, we know that isn't the case.

Dismissing this as "well that was gross anyway, who cares?" is problematic because who knows what is next? What is the next thing enough people agree is "gross?" Maybe it's the animal cruelty in Pokemon, or the satanic imagery of Diablo or Doom, or dangerous message of reckless driving in cart racers.

My profile is public, I don't own any of these games and I made threads about how pissed I was when they started populating my Queue with these gross ass games. They are gross and trash, but as the ACLU used to understand, it's a slippery slope when you start shutting things down because "the majority of us don't like it anyway." This is a terrible flex from payment providers and genuinely lol directly @yourface if you think it just stops here.

This has been happening for decades, you just didn't notice until it hit something you cared about.

No. I don't remember that.

Originally posted by DeadSlash:

Originally posted by =^.^= Bigshow:

remember when trump said take the guns and have due process later? i do. remember when trump signed that phony bologna bill banning bump stocks and turning millions of us gun owners into felons over night? i do. i understand that banks are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ terrible, but dont go throwing your political biases or views around while the other guys or the other side for that matter is just as ♥♥♥♥♥♥

This genuinely has nothing to do with Trump. Just because the Biden administration pioneered "debanking" doesn't require some Trump equivalent. Republicans historically have been anti-video game violence, so they are not the "heroes" here, but it doesn't change the fact that this tactic was developed and employed by the Biden admin.

Originally posted by Truth:

The irony is this has nothing to do with banks or debarking so of course the OP isn't going to find people talking about debarking. It's truly astounding that people don't know the difference between banks and payment processors.

Yeah, except it does though. Taking away access to something you don't want people to have by end-arounding the law to prevent them from buying it? Sounds like the same thing to me. It's literally the exact same concept, but inserted into a different stage of the process.

Originally posted by Cryptic:

Remember when nobody cared because taking away somebody's guns and their right to protect themselves is a lot different than taking away their smut simply because of platform doesn't want to be all about that anymore like it has been for the last few years?

I agree that this is fundamentally far less serious than preventing people from buying firearms, but the precedent is dangerous. It's gross games today, and tomorrow we find out that FPS games are considered gross too.
If this had simply been a choice by Valve to move away from these games, that would be a different story, however, we know that isn't the case.

Dismissing this as "well that was gross anyway, who cares?" is problematic because who knows what is next? What is the next thing enough people agree is "gross?" Maybe it's the animal cruelty in Pokemon, or the satanic imagery of Diablo or Doom, or dangerous message of reckless driving in cart racers.

My profile is public, I don't own any of these games and I made threads about how pissed I was when they started populating my Queue with these gross ass games. They are gross and trash, but as the ACLU used to understand, it's a slippery slope when you start shutting things down because "the majority of us don't like it anyway." This is a terrible flex from payment providers and genuinely lol directly @yourface if you think it just stops here.

I wasn't actually talking about porn or porn games in general. I was specifically talking about the few topics that were specifically targeted in being taken down. I think it is completely understandable and justifiable for a company or companies to collectively take something down if it's not going to allow them to do business, possibly violate laws, definitely cause a disturbance, and potentially cause further issues down the road. Nowadays, even something unproblematic causes problems so what can you expect? Something deeply problematic like those topics was obviously going to cause a big stir

Originally posted by DeadSlash:

Yeah, except it does though. Taking away access to something you don't want people to have by end-arounding the law to prevent them from buying it? Sounds like the same thing to me. It's literally the exact same concept, but inserted into a different stage of the process.

Then you need to read up on it more as its not the same. Their bank accounts, credit cards, lines of credit, etc are all unaffected. Its nothing at all like debanking, and the very term debanking isn't applicable as its not the banks doing anything.

Originally posted by DeadSlash:

Hmm, I just searched the first 3 pages with debanking as a keyword and it's not in that thread.

Hence why this returns no results as its not debanking as its not done by a bank. Its like searching for DUI's when people were actually drag racing.... Sure both involve cars but they are very different

Originally posted by DeadSlash:

Valve is getting rid of your tentacle pron adult games to avoid being debanked. I wonder if maybe you should have stood up when the Biden admin started the whole debanking thing and maybe said "No" instead "lolz gun nuts gotz owned."

I don't own one single gross ass game you guys are freaking out over losing access to, but I STILL acknowledge it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that this is happening. Too bad people just thought it was totally fine that banks decided you can't use your money to legally buy a legal gun that you were legally allowed to own.

Sucks, doesn't it?

Maybe next time you'll think about the consequences and precedence set before blindly celebrating terrible actions because they hurt someone you dislike?

I have never heard of people being killed by porn.

Originally posted by Start_Running:

Originally posted by DeadSlash:

Valve is getting rid of your tentacle pron adult games to avoid being debanked. I wonder if maybe you should have stood up when the Biden admin started the whole debanking thing and maybe said "No" instead "lolz gun nuts gotz owned."

I don't own one single gross ass game you guys are freaking out over losing access to, but I STILL acknowledge it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that this is happening. Too bad people just thought it was totally fine that banks decided you can't use your money to legally buy a legal gun that you were legally allowed to own.

Sucks, doesn't it?

Maybe next time you'll think about the consequences and precedence set before blindly celebrating terrible actions because they hurt someone you dislike?

I have never heard of people being killed by porn.

well to be fair the literal French definition is "the little death".....