Valve Antitrust Ligitation - what the hell did I got?
Hi. Sorry for asking here but I'm worried and seriously need help in understanding this. Few weeks ago I got email about Valve lawsuit. I decided to ignore it because I was sure that's some kind of scam. I don't want to sue anyone and I don't want to take part in some kind of "Anti-Valve lawsuit".

But today I've found this in my mailbox. Does anyone else got this? Can I safely ignore it or should I do something? I don't want to visit this site or scan QR code because there's a chance that I'll download some kind of spyware. As I said, I don't want to take part in any lawsuit against Valve. I hope that you can help me understand this.


Photos of "postcard"[imgur.com]
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You're correct, it's a scam. Ignore it.
Perhaps look up the phone number for that court house(don't use the one on the postcard) and confirm if there is in fact a case. If you do nothing or don't eject yourself from the case then you win whatever the court decides and you can't do your own lawsuit. You literally don't have to do ANYTHING which I'm certain is explained on the word side of the postcard.
Hopefully they also describe what the basis of the lawsuit is about(please tell us, we could use a good laugh)
Satoru 15 Jul @ 6:05pm 
Note it is 100000000% illegal for any non government entity to use any US government seal on a mailing unless they are part of that entity

https://www.usa.gov/government-copyright

The fact that the postcard is using the Washington Western court logo violates SEVERAL LAWS already. This means

1) this is fake

or

2) These lawyers are SO BAD they are literally breaking the law to scam users in Poland


Note also this case is ongoing and they filed yesterday, for a bunch of lawyers to change out. And that THE LAWYERS ON THAT FAKE WEBSITE WITHDREW YESTERDAY

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/59859024/wolfire-games-llc-v-valve-corporation/?page=3

If the lawyers in this case did send that post card and set up this website

Also note the whois is listed in the UK privacy website which is ULTRA SKETCHY

Note also that the case is in arbitration, and that the arbitration was basically denied as a MASS concept. Meaning that other than paying the lawyers arbitration costs to submit claims, they were NOT entitled to damages beyond the SINGLE case

1) There is no class action anymore by definition, its all arbitration
2) The arbitration did not yield anything
3) If you agreed to the new SSA in any way shape or form within the past 9 months, then basically, again, unless you personally send an arbitration action to Valve directly there is no 'class action' to collect moeny from becasue such a case DOES NOT EXIST because it was sent back to arbitration

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.wawd.298754/gov.uscourts.wawd.298754.470.0.pdf

It makes no sense for there to be a 'deadline' for a case that is literally ONGOING, is NOT a class action anymore.
Last edited by Satoru; 15 Jul @ 6:23pm
Report it to your email provider.

:nkCool:
rawWwRrr 15 Jul @ 6:49pm 
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Report it to your email provider.

:nkCool:
Was physical postcard.
It does seem to be a thing: https://www.fixgamingchannel.com/valve-antitrust-lawsuit-steam/

You received the post card because you are automatically part of the class action lawsuit.
The card was send to publishers and developers in the states.

There is contact information on the website, as well as a FAQ. The thing is, a couple of devs have been suing Valve for a decade or so now? I forgot. You're basically now part of it since the evidence is hard to refute.

The case is about restricting the prices and preventing competition on other stores. If Game Keys were sold on other stores for a lower price, Valve would basically punish you for that or something. You have to keep the prices the same, and because of that, a game goes for sale basically only on Valve's store. (or at the same time as Valve's store)

Fixing prices is what it is about at least from what I can tell.
Last edited by Elucidator; 15 Jul @ 7:06pm
Satoru 15 Jul @ 7:14pm 
Originally posted by Elucidator:
It does seem to be a thing:

Note again it is literally NOT a thing

1) The class action suit was rejected and forced back into arbitration
2) Valve has not agreed to pay anything in arbitration
3) There is still ON GOING motions in this case

There is no possible way there is a 'deadline' for anything because the case IS NOT SETTLED.

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/59859024/wolfire-games-llc-v-valve-corporation/?page=3

Lawyers are dropping in and out of this case like flies

This is either fake, or a fishing expedition again.

Plus using a US court logo on a mailer is a mega ultra copyright offense

https://www.usa.gov/government-copyright

Valve's lawyers would love to know why the lawyers are scaring 'plaintiffs' into signing onto a 'deadline' that literally does not exist, and illegally using US court logos on a mailer
Last edited by Satoru; 15 Jul @ 7:17pm
Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:
Report it to your email provider.

:nkCool:
Was physical postcard.

Then, report it to the local authorities.

:nkCool:
Originally posted by Satoru:
There is no possible way there is a 'deadline' for anything because the case IS NOT SETTLED.
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/59859024/wolfire-games-llc-v-valve-corporation/?page=3
Entry 392 - Nov 26, 2024 - Class certification granted
Entry 432 - Mar 3, 2025 - The opt-out deadline date form is proposed (see document)
_____, 2025, 134 days after issuance of the Order approving the Certification Notice Plan
Entry 440 - Apr 21, 2025 - The opt out deadline date is finalized. (see document)

No, it seems real. I think you're misreading.... or maybe I am.
but the documents are at least not fake.

Anyway I didn't find them going back to arbitration after ward, but as you said, a couple of attorneys applied and a couple left (spare ones? seemingly at least...)
There is also submission of evidence to the case going on and other nonsense, most of which I cannot read.

Edit: @Satoru
I didn't see your edit before; I saw an older version of the thread I suppose.
You said 'again' not knowingly I suppose.

Edit 2: That arbitration thing...
it seems that it is a second thing only related to the case; Larry didn't login since 2023 and didn't as such accept the new SSA agreement, meaning he thought he could Sanction Valve.
That motion was rejected.
That was what you linked to was about.
So basically you saw an 'inbetween' thingy going on here, but this didn't overwrite the Class.
Larry stood outside of this class themselves. The class certification was not canceled.

Also, I don't think it matters for the case whether or not Valve quickly changed the SSA. When you remove tweets from twitter, that doesn't mean that the removed tweets weren't there for any given case either. Basically, I think for the case of the class, they will assume the SSA during the so called "Class Period", from what i read. And despite valve saying 'retroactively'; that will likely fall into the water, because back then, that is not what you agreed on and... it will not be met with a kind face in court generally anyway.

In fact, that retroactive clause makes it a one time chance kind of case, I suppose. When you opt out, you'll be opting out forever.
Last edited by Elucidator; 15 Jul @ 8:17pm
Satoru 16 Jul @ 7:44am 
Originally posted by Elucidator:
Originally posted by Satoru:
There is no possible way there is a 'deadline' for anything because the case IS NOT SETTLED.
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/59859024/wolfire-games-llc-v-valve-corporation/?page=3
Entry 392 - Nov 26, 2024 - Class certification granted
Entry 432 - Mar 3, 2025 - The opt-out deadline date form is proposed (see document)
_____, 2025, 134 days after issuance of the Order approving the Certification Notice Plan
Entry 440 - Apr 21, 2025 - The opt out deadline date is finalized. (see document)

You cannot have an opt out for a case that no longer exists There are no deadlines that are relevant for this case. The case is in arbitration. Its no longer a class action suit. Any deadline is worthless as no one is receiving any benefits as part of any class action anymore.

That on top of the fact they are illegally using the Washington Western District logo
Last edited by Satoru; 16 Jul @ 7:48am
On May 2, 2025, The Honorable Jamal N. Whitehead of the U.S. District of Washington for the Western District appointed Cohen Milstein sole Interim Lead Class Counsel for the consumer class.

Document 473 Filed 06/27/25
CONSOLIDATED AMENDED CLASS
ACTION COMPLAINT
JURY TRIAL DEMANDED

Valve didn't want a class action lawsuit and filed a complaint
No response to this yet
However, Valve did receive sanctions in between (which was settled using arbitration)

The class action lawsuit is not canceled, clearly...

Hate to break it to you, but I don't think you're actually reading the files.
Last edited by Elucidator; 16 Jul @ 8:17am
UPDATE:

This is not a scam! I informed the court that someone might be impersonating them. They responded by saying it was a genuine document.

It was received by people who paid a $100 fee to publish the game on Steam. A group of people wants to force a reduction in that fee and a reduction in the commission from 30% to 15%. To avoid participating in the class action lawsuit against Valve, please fill out the appropriate form.
Kohanna 16 Jul @ 6:42pm 
lol
Originally posted by djsound 1985:

Yeah, sure.
I finally got an answer from Valve
Screenshot [i.imgur.com]
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