You do not own the mod. If the mod author wants it removed, that's their call. It's not like you paid for the mod, now is it?

And it's 2025. Using the year as if it has critical importance to the entitlement and ignorance in defending one's stance is still passé and blasé. Clickbait garbage has never been a good way to defend a position. If your position can't get attention on its own, then perhaps it's not a good position.

valve's never gonna change their stance on this. best we can do is backup the mods ourselves

Mods belong to the person who created them.
If they decided to remove the mod, then Steam is required to remove it.

It is a headache trying to remember what mod was lost, so I would like to have the local files not deleted and the title to remain in subscribed items thanks.

Originally posted by 「Sk™」:

It is a headache trying to remember what mod was lost, so I would like to have the local files not deleted and the title to remain in subscribed items thanks.

Steam can't do that.

If the mod author removed the mod from Steam, then the system cannot keep it with how the workshop is set up.

If you use sites like Nexus Mods you can download those mods and even if the mod author removed the mod from the site it still remains on your computer.

Originally posted by HikariLight:

Mods belong to the person who created them.
If they decided to remove the mod, then Steam is required to remove it.

Not from MY hard drive they aren't. Absolutely not required, and the fact that they do delete things from MY hard drive is crossing a line they should not cross.

For both you and BJWyler, I assume if your favorite musical artist decided to pull your favorite song off the internet, you're both OK with the mp3 files you've got downloaded on your phone being deleted, without any notification and against your will? Because that's the exact position you're defending.

Originally posted by Viper:

Originally posted by HikariLight:

Mods belong to the person who created them.
If they decided to remove the mod, then Steam is required to remove it.

Not from MY hard drive they aren't. Absolutely not required, and the fact that they do delete things from MY hard drive is crossing a line they should not cross.

For both you and BJWyler, I assume if your favorite musical artist decided to pull your favorite song off the internet, you're both OK with the mp3 files you've got downloaded on your phone being deleted, without any notification and against your will? Because that's the exact position you're defending.

If you learn to read, you will notice the green button you press to download a mod from the workshop says SUBSCRIBE, so thus if the mod is removed you cannot be subscribed to something that is no longer there.

It is not your mod just because you downloaded it.

It still belongs to the user who is labeled as the author, and if they remove it from the workshop that is their right.

Go read the workshop policy before you start complaining.

Originally posted by HikariLight:

Originally posted by Viper:

Not from MY hard drive they aren't. Absolutely not required, and the fact that they do delete things from MY hard drive is crossing a line they should not cross.

For both you and BJWyler, I assume if your favorite musical artist decided to pull your favorite song off the internet, you're both OK with the mp3 files you've got downloaded on your phone being deleted, without any notification and against your will? Because that's the exact position you're defending.

If you learn to read, you will notice the green button you press to download a mod from the workshop says SUBSCRIBE, so thus if the mod is removed you cannot be subscribed to something that is no longer there.

It is not your mod just because you downloaded it.

It still belongs to the user who is labeled as the author, and if they remove it from the workshop that is their right.

Go read the workshop policy before you start complaining.

For someone who started with "If you learn to read", you're sure bad at reading yourself, apparently. IDGAF about whatever you're talking about - that's not the topic.

The topic is data being deleted from my hard drive against my will. Try to keep up, pal.

Originally posted by HikariLight:

Originally posted by Viper:

Not from MY hard drive they aren't. Absolutely not required, and the fact that they do delete things from MY hard drive is crossing a line they should not cross.

For both you and BJWyler, I assume if your favorite musical artist decided to pull your favorite song off the internet, you're both OK with the mp3 files you've got downloaded on your phone being deleted, without any notification and against your will? Because that's the exact position you're defending.

If you learn to read, you will notice the green button you press to download a mod from the workshop says SUBSCRIBE, so thus if the mod is removed you cannot be subscribed to something that is no longer there.

It is not your mod just because you downloaded it.

It still belongs to the user who is labeled as the author, and if they remove it from the workshop that is their right.

Go read the workshop policy before you start complaining.

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@HikariLight pay particular attention to that very last sentence.

Perhaps it is YOU who should have read the subscriber agreement, hmm?

Originally posted by Viper:

Originally posted by HikariLight:

If you learn to read, you will notice the green button you press to download a mod from the workshop says SUBSCRIBE, so thus if the mod is removed you cannot be subscribed to something that is no longer there.

It is not your mod just because you downloaded it.

It still belongs to the user who is labeled as the author, and if they remove it from the workshop that is their right.

Go read the workshop policy before you start complaining.

For someone who started with "If you learn to read", you're sure bad at reading yourself, apparently. IDGAF about whatever you're talking about - that's not the topic.

The topic is data being deleted from my hard drive against my will. Try to keep up, pal.

And if you would go READ the workshop policy, it would explain it.

You are subscribed to a mod, thus you fall under subscription rules.
If the item you are subscribed to is removed, then obviously you don't get to keep it.

There are plenty of other sites you can get mods from that a permanently downloaded to your computer even if the mod author removes the mod from the hosting site.

Originally posted by HikariLight:

And if you would go READ the workshop policy, it would explain it.

You may, in your sole discretion, choose to remove a Workshop Contribution from the applicable Workshop pages. If you do so, Valve will no longer have the right to use, distribute, transmit, communicate, publicly display or publicly perform the Workshop Contribution, except that (a) Valve may continue to exercise these rights for any Workshop Contribution that is accepted for distribution in-game or distributed in a manner that allows it to be used in-game, and (b) your removal will not affect the rights of any Subscriber who has already obtained access to a copy of the Workshop Contribution.


@HikariLight keep digging that hole bro

best to ignore the bait comments, they want arguments, they want to get you forum banned.

anywho, always backup mod files (and game saves for that matter), but also... steam workshop isnt all that great (and should not be removing anything from anyone's computers), used to be nexusmods was the "go to" mod site, but that site looks to be heading into the gutter and likely dying out.

best to find a good mod site and use those.

good luck and have a nice day

You may, in your sole discretion, choose to remove a Workshop Contribution from the applicable Workshop pages. If you do so, Valve will no longer have the right to use, distribute, transmit.

You are dodging this part right here.^

Valve may continue to exercise these rights for any Workshop Contribution that is accepted.
That means if the mod author has ALLOWED Valve to keep letting users use it even if the mod author has removed it.

You are cherry picking to twist it into your favor.

mod authors have zero authority and have no say in whats kept on a person's pc, they have no say, in whats "allowed" to be continued to use, whether they like it or not.

your removal will not affect the rights of any Subscriber who has already obtained access to a copy of the Workshop Contribution.

have a nice day peeps

Originally posted by HikariLight:

You may, in your sole discretion, choose to remove a Workshop Contribution from the applicable Workshop pages. If you do so, Valve will no longer have the right to use, distribute, transmit.

You are dodging this part right here.^

Valve may continue to exercise these rights for any Workshop Contribution that is accepted.
That means if the mod author has ALLOWED Valve to keep letting users use it even if the mod author has removed it.

You are cherry picking to twist it into your favor.

You are using the line "Valve will no longer have the right to use, distribute, transmit" to imply some sort of requirement that they must delete the data from MY hard drive. Sorry, but that just doesn't work, man. Reaching out and taking action and deleting files from my hard drive is not use, it is not distribution, and it is not transmission. Try again.