Current Censorship Issue
*IF STEAM BANS USING VISA/MC THEN THEY LOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN TRANSACTION PROFIT!

STEAM NEEDS TO PUT THEIR FOOT DOWN TO PREVENT OUTSIDE BUSINESSES DICTATING DECISIONS OF VALVE'S COMPANY!

If you allow them power into your own company, this is only the beginning, next they will try to force you to make other decisions with your company.
Whoever approved this gave Valve a huge L
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Hey Im Recon 17 Jul @ 6:29pm 
If you aren't happy with any policies put in place then the recommendation is to stop using the service and delete any account(s). If you continue to use the service, this means you are happy with the policies in place and you still agree to them.
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Heres the original and active discussion about this subject to prevent a large amount of duplicate threads;
https://steamproxy-script.pipiskins.com/discussions/forum/0/601910081412430040/

When seeing YouTube videos about recent news, best to search first.
Origami 17 Jul @ 6:42pm 
Steam is most likely the first company that was targeted by this campaign that could fight back and lobby for legislation that could stop payment processors from dictating what storefronts can sell.

But if it really bugs you... you should go into your library and find every game you have played for less than 2 hours and request a refund due to "lack of faith in the future of the platform due to recent guideline changes".
nullable 17 Jul @ 8:09pm 
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Originally posted by LordOfDarkFlame:
*IF STEAM BANS USING VISA/MC THEN THEY LOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN TRANSACTION PROFIT!

STEAM NEEDS TO PUT THEIR FOOT DOWN TO PREVENT OUTSIDE BUSINESSES DICTATING DECISIONS OF VALVE'S COMPANY!

If you allow them power into your own company, this is only the beginning, next they will try to force you to make other decisions with your company.
Whoever approved this gave Valve a huge L

Valve is a service that has terms both users and developers must abide by. Payment processors are a service that vendors must abide by.

Valve can allow whatever they want on their store. And payment processors can shut down their vendor account if they have issues with problematic content content transactions on their network.

Maybe it's a pain and annoying, but not much Valve can do about it. Both Valve and payment processors have rights to make decisions about their own services. Valve is going to decide problematic content is not more valuable than continued access to major payment providers.

And people are going to be pissed and anthropomorphize Valve as being a victim and needing to "fight". But there's no fight where Valve ends up forcing Visa or MC to accept transactions and business they don't want. And there's no reality where credit card users are going to stick with Valve the second they can no longer accept payments. Most will just hmgo to the next store and scoff at the foolishness of getting banned by major credit cards companies.
Last edited by nullable; 17 Jul @ 8:14pm
Originally posted by LordOfDarkFlame:
*IF STEAM BANS USING VISA/MC THEN THEY LOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN TRANSACTION PROFIT!

STEAM NEEDS TO PUT THEIR FOOT DOWN TO PREVENT OUTSIDE BUSINESSES DICTATING DECISIONS OF VALVE'S COMPANY!

If you allow them power into your own company, this is only the beginning, next they will try to force you to make other decisions with your company.
Whoever approved this gave Valve a huge L
https://steamproxy-script.pipiskins.com/discussions/forum/0/601910081412430040/

Already an on-going topic. Best of luck, blocked, etc.
skOsH♥ 17 Jul @ 11:41pm 
One could travel to USA and buy cannabis with visa or MC. But all of a sudden games are worse then something restricted 21+ in their own country?

What bizarre rules they have there.
The world has rules. It's frustrating, I know, but get used to it.
Originally posted by LordOfDarkFlame:
*IF STEAM BANS USING VISA/MC THEN THEY LOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN TRANSACTION PROFIT!
And Valve loses just as much if not more as they prettymuch won't be able to sell anything.
WHich means most foplks won't be able to buy anything, nor will dev/pubs earn anything.

Originally posted by LordOfDarkFlame:
STEAM NEEDS TO PUT THEIR FOOT DOWN TO PREVENT OUTSIDE BUSINESSES DICTATING DECISIONS OF VALVE'S COMPANY!
Putting your foot down is one thing but it's not very helpful to step on your own toes.
I'm just waiting to see what the people who are supporting this round of censorship, says when the games they like get removed / censored, due to payment processors being able to ban whatever they deem fit to ban
We shouldn't let payment processors let decide what we can publish or purchase. Even tho I don't have any issues while purchasing games on steam via card, then I agree with you. The government is liable for that censorship, because they let financial institutions do what they want and when they want. And we are slaves because of that.
Everything related to financial sector sucks nowadays... Payment processors, banks, fintechs (like wise, revolut, zen and so on), steam and steam support was bad even before... The government simply doesn't care
Originally posted by nullable:
Originally posted by LordOfDarkFlame:
*IF STEAM BANS USING VISA/MC THEN THEY LOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN TRANSACTION PROFIT!

STEAM NEEDS TO PUT THEIR FOOT DOWN TO PREVENT OUTSIDE BUSINESSES DICTATING DECISIONS OF VALVE'S COMPANY!

If you allow them power into your own company, this is only the beginning, next they will try to force you to make other decisions with your company.
Whoever approved this gave Valve a huge L

Valve is a service that has terms both users and developers must abide by. Payment processors are a service that vendors must abide by.

Valve can allow whatever they want on their store. And payment processors can shut down their vendor account if they have issues with problematic content content transactions on their network.

Maybe it's a pain and annoying, but not much Valve can do about it. Both Valve and payment processors have rights to make decisions about their own services. Valve is going to decide problematic content is not more valuable than continued access to major payment providers.

And people are going to be pissed and anthropomorphize Valve as being a victim and needing to "fight". But there's no fight where Valve ends up forcing Visa or MC to accept transactions and business they don't want. And there's no reality where credit card users are going to stick with Valve the second they can no longer accept payments. Most will just hmgo to the next store and scoff at the foolishness of getting banned by major credit cards companies.

Well Valve can do something about it: just add cryptocurrency transactions as a payment method :). This is the only one ultimate solutions of 2025.
You think Valve is going to fight against two companies that maintain the majority of financial transactions? Remember, they aren't just credit card companies, they maintain debit cards for many banks as well.

What will hit more customers, do you think? Blocking Visa/MC or removing those games? Think about it.

Personally I can't fault Valve for being a business and making a business decision. Visa/MC on the other hand...
Originally posted by Origami:
Steam is most likely the first company that was targeted by this campaign that could fight back and lobby for legislation that could stop payment processors from dictating what storefronts can sell.

But if it really bugs you... you should go into your library and find every game you have played for less than 2 hours and request a refund due to "lack of faith in the future of the platform due to recent guideline changes".

Yeah, payment processors shouldn't dictate what someone can sell or not, unless it is not against law, for example selling drugs and so on. Porn games or any other are not illegal in any country as far as I know at least... This is ridiculous
Xhoas 18 Jul @ 6:47am 
Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:
You think Valve is going to fight against two companies that maintain the majority of financial transactions?.
Yes, because is the right thing to do.
Originally posted by Xhoas:
Originally posted by Crazy Tiger:
You think Valve is going to fight against two companies that maintain the majority of financial transactions?.
Yes, because is the right thing to do.
Valve is a business, not a campaigning network. :conwayshrug:

Why should Valve be the activist for others? Have people considered that Valve simply might think it's in their own best interest to take this step?
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