Nah.

https://youtu.be/rmlSy0MhIAI

Originally posted by Chaosolous:

Nah.

https://youtu.be/rmlSy0MhIAI

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pBlQSZs7pw&t

“Ever” hasn’t happened yet.

Originally posted by Affronter:

“Ever” hasn’t happened yet.

It’s close enough to call it.

Originally posted by Chaosolous:

Originally posted by Affronter:

“Ever” hasn’t happened yet.

It’s close enough to call it.

Yep, I'm willing to risk it.

Heh, good luck getting us lot to all agree on literally anything. I don't even think we could all agree the S.N.E.S. was the greatest console of all time and that's a no-brainer stance.

The only thing people know about Baywatch is slo-mo running in swimsuits, but let's be frank here, even if you're the sort of lewdster who would watch it just for that reason, it's probably got some cheesy plot to it that distracts from that.

Also, if we're being frank here, it probably wasn't even the best show of the 1990s.

• Star Trek The Next Generation.
  
• Star Trek Deep Space 9
  
• Batman: The Animated Series
  
• Third Rock from the Sun
  
• Red Dwarf
  
• Married with Children
  
• The Fresh Prince of Bel Air
  
• Home Improvement
  
• The Drew Carey Show
  
• Family Matters
  
• Sister Sister
  
• Dinosaurs
  
• Sabrina the Teenage Witch
  
• Rosanne
  
• Fraiser
  
• News Radio
  
• Seinfeld

I didn't like Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers so much. It gets an honorable mention because it was so popular though. I'm also tempted to ignore the existence of Friends since it was borderline mediocre with some highlights rather than one of the all time greats, although that would be somewhat disingenuous of me since I did enjoy watching it more often than not.

That's well over a dozen shows from memory without even counting the amazing selection of animation. I'd be here all day long if we did that. Baywatch doesn't even stand a chance in its own decade, much less of all time.

Then if since we are pulling out from all time we've got I Love Lucy, the ♥♥♥♥ Van ♥♥♥♥ Show, Bewitched, I Dream of Jeannie, Dragnet, The Twilight Zone, The Odd Couple, Taxi and Dr. Who just to name a few more possibilities.

And look, if I am picking a personal favorite and not putting Japanese animation into consideration, it's a tossup between Batman: The Animated Series, The Simpsons or Star Trek The Next Generation.

But if I'm picking something with the aim of achieving an agreeable consensus then I'm probably picking Star Trek: Deep Space 9 or Taxi and I'm leaning towards Taxi. I mean you have Christopher Loyd, Andy Kaufman and Danny Devito all in one show and they all play rather compelling characters.

Western television went downhill real fast after the 1990s though. I'm not going to claim everything sucked after the 1990s, but mostly because I gave up trying to find good shows to watch on western television and started getting more into anime, and I have seen some clips.

The Spranos was also good, but in the same way that I'm counting shows from the late 1980s onwards as 1990s shows if the bulk of their episodes aired during the 1990s, The Sopranos is more of a turn of the millennium show.

Firefly

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Al Jazeera.

Originally posted by Tonepoet:

Heh, good luck getting us lot to all agree on literally anything. I don't even think we could all agree the S.N.E.S. was the greatest console of all time and that's a no-brainer stance.

The only thing people know about Baywatch is slo-mo running in swimsuits, but let's be frank here, even if you're the sort of lewdster who would watch it just for that reason, it's probably got some cheesy plot to it that distracts from that.

Also, if we're being frank here, it probably wasn't even the best show of the 1990s.

• Star Trek The Next Generation.
  
• Star Trek Deep Space 9
  
• Batman: The Animated Series
  
• Third Rock from the Sun
  
• Red Dwarf
  
• Married with Children
  
• The Fresh Prince of Bel Air
  
• Home Improvement
  
• The Drew Carey Show
  
• Family Matters
  
• Sister Sister
  
• Dinosaurs
  
• Sabrina the Teenage Witch
  
• Rosanne
  
• Fraiser
  
• News Radio
  
• Seinfeld

I didn't like Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers so much. It gets an honorable mention because it was so popular though. I'm also tempted to ignore the existence of Friends since it was borderline mediocre with some highlights rather than one of the all time greats, although that would be somewhat disingenuous of me since I did enjoy watching it more often than not.

That's well over a dozen shows from memory without even counting the amazing selection of animation. I'd be here all day long if we did that. Baywatch doesn't even stand a chance in its own decade, much less of all time.

Then if since we are pulling out from all time we've got I Love Lucy, the ♥♥♥♥ Van ♥♥♥♥ Show, Bewitched, I Dream of Jeannie, Dragnet, The Twilight Zone, The Odd Couple, Taxi and Dr. Who just to name a few more possibilities.

And look, if I am picking a personal favorite and not putting Japanese animation into consideration, it's a tossup between Batman: The Animated Series, The Simpsons or Star Trek The Next Generation.

But if I'm picking something with the aim of achieving an agreeable consensus then I'm probably picking Star Trek: Deep Space 9 or Taxi and I'm leaning towards Taxi. I mean you have Christopher Loyd, Andy Kaufman and Danny Devito all in one show and they all play rather compelling characters.

Western television went downhill real fast after the 1990s though. I'm not going to claim everything sucked after the 1990s, but mostly because I gave up trying to find good shows to watch on western television and started getting more into anime, and I have seen some clips.

The Spranos was also good, but in the same way that I'm counting shows from the late 1980s onwards as 1990s shows if the bulk of their episodes aired during the 1990s, The Sopranos is more of a turn of the millennium show.

Combine all those shows and their weekly viewership wasn't even close haha.

"🌊 Yep, Baywatch holds a pretty wild record — at its peak in 1996, it was watched by over 1.1 billion people weekly across 142 countries, making it the most widely viewed TV series in the world ever according to Guinness World Records."

Originally posted by $2 Hero:

Combine all those shows and their weekly viewership wasn't even close haha. :colorbars:

"🌊 Yep, Baywatch holds a pretty wild record — at its peak in 1996, it was watched by over 1.1 billion people weekly across 142 countries, making it the most widely viewed TV series in the world ever according to Guinness World Records."

Most watched can be for reasons other than quality though. I mean for one thing, a show restricting itself to cable puts a paywall in front of it and you're going to lose a significant amount of viewership on that basis alone. I figure the cable companies make it up to their networks somehow unless there's some technical reason those networks can't be distributed over the air. Granted, I don't think there are any cable exclusive shows in my list, but that's only one reason a good show might fail to get ratings. Plus how much a show costs to syndicate can play a role in how many networks adopt it. So you know, a bunch of people are just watching Baywatch 'cause there ain't anything better to watch during its time slot out in the middle of nowhere.

No, if you wanted to try and do this based upon viewership in a fair and square objective matter, you'd isolate over the air broadcasts in the U.S. market where all of these shows aired and see what people choose to watch when they have a choice.

For this we check Nielson ratings.

These are the top 30 rated shows for each year in the first half of the 1990s[fbibler.chez.com]

These are the top 30 rated shows for the second half of the 1990s[fbibler.chez.com]

Baywatch is nowhere to be found on either list. People like E.R., Seinfeld and 60 minutes. A fair number of the other shows I mentioned do make appearances, including in the top slot. If Baywatch was as compelling as you suggest, you would at least think it would be anywhere in the top 30 during 1996, but it is not.

This shouldn't be too surprising. I mean you yourself admitted you haven't watched it, which is a statistical unlikelihood for the best show on television in your region.

So if what you say is true, and yes Guiness does have that record[www.guinnessworldrecords.com], then Baywatch's captive audience may have been subjected to the Ludovico technique because in many countries because it was the best those countries could afford, and maybe they could afford it precisely because it was not too good. It would be hard for me to say. If there is any extant record of how much for a network to air each show, it probably is not public information.

Something else that has to be kept in mind about international shows is the language barrier, and it really helps if you're not watching the show for anything the characters are saying if you catch my drift.

Also, here's hats off to America's Funniest Home Videos. Truly a show ahead of its time. Basically the closest thing we had to Youtube compilation videos before the internet existed.

I was kinda expecting to see Mr Show or at least MST3K when you said best show ever.

Originally posted by Tonepoet:

Originally posted by $2 Hero:

Combine all those shows and their weekly viewership wasn't even close haha.

"🌊 Yep, Baywatch holds a pretty wild record — at its peak in 1996, it was watched by over 1.1 billion people weekly across 142 countries, making it the most widely viewed TV series in the world ever according to Guinness World Records."

Most watched can be for reasons other than quality though. I mean for one thing, a show restricting itself to cable puts a paywall in front of it and you're going to lose a significant amount of viewership on that basis alone. I figure the cable companies make it up to their networks somehow unless there's some technical reason those networks can't be distributed over the air. Granted, I don't think there are any cable exclusive shows in my list, but that's only one reason a good show might fail to get ratings. Plus how much a show costs to syndicate can play a role in how many networks adopt it. So you know, a bunch of people are just watching Baywatch 'cause there ain't anything better to watch during its time slot out in the middle of nowhere.

No, if you wanted to try and do this based upon viewership in a fair and square objective matter, you'd isolate over the air broadcasts in the U.S. market where all of these shows aired and see what people choose to watch when they have a choice.

For this we check Nielson ratings.

These are the top 30 rated shows for each year in the first half of the 1990s[fbibler.chez.com]

These are the top 30 rated shows for the second half of the 1990s[fbibler.chez.com]

Baywatch is nowhere to be found on either list. People like E.R., Seinfeld and 60 minutes. A fair number of the other shows I mentioned do make appearances, including in the top slot. If Baywatch was as compelling as you suggest, you would at least think it would be anywhere in the top 30 during 1996, but it is not.

This shouldn't be too surprising. I mean you yourself admitted you haven't watched it, which is a statistical unlikelihood for the best show on television in your region.

So if what you say is true, and yes Guiness does have that record[www.guinnessworldrecords.com], then Baywatch's captive audience may have been subjected to the Ludovico technique because in many countries because it was the best those countries could afford, and maybe they could afford it precisely because it was not too good. It would be hard for me to say. If there is any extant record of how much for a network to air each show, it probably is not public information.

Something else that has to be kept in mind about international shows is the language barrier, and it really helps if you're not watching the show for anything the characters are saying if you catch my drift.

Also, here's hats off to America's Funniest Home Videos. Truly a show ahead of its time. Basically the closest thing we had to Youtube compilation videos before the internet existed.

ER, Seinfield and 60 Minutes aired at night. Baywatch was a daytime show. Good try though.

Originally posted by Lime:

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