what are the prerequisites for spawning the pristine ruins quest? I cannot seem to be able to spawn the quest in dev mode. Thanks for any answer :)

I was unable to reform the caravan to leave the Ruins map after the map was safe. I could select items on the caravan loading screen, but then clicking "send" had no effect and the loading screen did not close. I was able to force leave with dev mode. Here is the log that popped up with error logging when I hit the "send" button on the caravan screen. https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/2e86007cf0e5505a2c583f562bce9180

If i try to generate a planet to begin a new game its somewhat blocking the generating window blocks the view on the generated Planet. after hours of check uncheck Mods, Repair Rimworld and add mod after mod I somewhat could pin down Real ruins is might doing this.

I lose the Odyssey shuttle upon entering ruins.

@Avallac What do you mean? I've been using this mod for years without these problems, but since version 1.6, when I enable it, the mysterious complex/installation quest doesn't work properly, no complex is generated, that's why I reported it.

@psyhe28 perhaps you should try reading the description of a mod before downloading it

will there always be ruins on entering a map or just sometimes when entering a new map?

hugsllib was a prerequisite about a week ago.

Removing everything harmony to do some troubleshooting, and tracked down a different issue to this mod-it's mod package doesnt tell the mod manager it has hugslib as a prereq (which itself has harmony as one). Oddly enough, ONLY putting in harmony, without hugslib, prevents it from throwing the error that has rimworld disable all mods. Also only with harmony, it appears to run the world creation script that adds the preseeded ruin sites. Entering the sites seems to work as intended as well. Is hugslib actually even a prereq? It looks like it should list harmony (and flag if it's missing), and not care about hugslib at all.

It also happened to me, that there was no complex to hack after my clonists were transported. And also I try to reform my caravan after looting a ruin, but I can't leave the map.

I just confirmed that the Machinist's Ruins also cannot be generated (no error logs).

Sorry, this was translated by GPT.
"Hello, and I apologize for making a rather unhelpful bug report... In my save, enabling this mod prevents me from generating quest structures that contain terminals. However, I haven’t tested whether this issue occurs without other mods enabled, because I don’t know how to trigger relic-related quests manually..."

Hello MR. TETEREW! Thank you for your mod and continued support of it. Have you considered changing the generated POI to use the new landmarks system, by any chance? This would allow the gravship start scenario to use them as well, and would make the map much more lively by scattering all those ruins around which are visible on the map view.

Seconding the request to make it possible to land gravship at real ruin tiles. Current the game won't let you and says 'this tile is occupied'

Activating this and then entering a 'mysterious complex/installation' map had the actual complex missing from the map, without this mod it spawned correctly on entering the map. Since there were some other ruins spawned on the map it looks like this mod overwrote the spawn from the dlc.

I just got a Abandoned colony quest that apeared on the very edge of the world, litteraly on an ocean tile, you might want to look into that

ワールド生成後もワールド生成画面が消えなく、ボタンも押せなくなるバグがまだありますね。バグでまだ使うことは出来ないみたいです。

Any idea why the World generation Screen does not go away after i generated the world? Had this issue since 1.4 i think, but never got around to understanding why. Is it a compatibility issue with other world gen mods?

Does this work with mods (Vanilla factions expanded, Vanilla furniture expanded, vanilla races expanded, medieval 2, vanilla tribal expanded, etc.)

@lochmere: I removed hugslib dependency. It was never really dependent on it by the way, just a couple of functions which were easily replaced.
@Void Shaman: Let me play a bit and when I'll get my own gravships I'll probably can fix it :)
@Kazzier: I'm impressed too! After I have read developer notes about 1.6 update, I honestly thought it's the end of my mod, because I expected a lot of breaking changes in map generation. It turned out that it was not that bad! Took me just a couple of evenings.

Have always loved this mod, but quick question: I know its a HugsLib dependency, but I see that it's not updated for 1.6 yet, but Real Ruins is. Does Real Ruins not need it anymore or does it not need an updated HugsLib and works with the non-updated version of it? A few of my mods still say HugsLib is needed, but the authors said its not, so not sure the exact situation here. Thanks for all your hard work!!!

Any chance or making it so the gravship can land on the tile? I want to roam around with my ship but whenever I try and land there it states 'this tile is occupied' but I can land at other normal locations, it's the same for VQE mods to so not just unique here.

So glad it's updated though! Loveeeee me some ruins

Very impressed this got updated so quickly.

Thank you @alicendrome and @mrteterew, my apologies for the late response as its early in the middle of the USA, but yes; it is exactly as described by @Alicendrome. Essentially, any hostile unit, after a period of time, sometimes months, somtimes quandrums, would eventually wander off with a message that says "Mechanoids are leaving".

Thanks for creating the mod and dedicating time away from friends and family to give us something for free and to update it at all is appreciated.

@MR. TETEREW it sounds like a bug that I was having with my 1.5 modlist. Any faction on the map (Traders, Ancient Danger, Mechanoids, Anomalies, etc.) would randomly pop up with an alert like: "Mechanoids are leaving.". It would break quests and such. I traced it back to this mod likely having an incompatibility. Though, considering how fun this mod is and that my modlist is like, 300 mods I just played around it with Dev mode.

@Grissom: what''s the bug? if it can be easily reproduced I'll fix it for sure.

Someone update if the 3 year old "mechanoids wandered off" bug is fixed with the newest update please. @MR TETEREW literally the only thing keeping me from this mod for YEARS man.

Aww hell yeah! I am glad i checked through my top mods to see this got an update :D I love the real ruins so much! Thank you for your hard work!

i spent 6 HOURS going through my modlist to find this mod was broken, and you update it the second i finally load up a non-glitched start 💀💀

@BEN: Awecome! Will try to switch to it tomorrow.

Update is live. It still can have some flaws, I'll try to keep testing and updating it over weekend. Hope it will work for a major part of you. Have a nice weekend on a rim!

best mod to ever exist! love you!

You are awesome, I love your mod

Well, looks like the update is on its way. Not without tradeoffs though, SRTS compatibility is temporarily disabled and because of issues with harmony (which I can't drop as easily as HugsLib), mod requires rosetta mode on mac. But on windows it should work fine. I'll do some final testing and try to upload it this evening.

"we get there when we get there" meme

1.6 when bby pls

Thank you both for the help. I guess the settings were old and not updating properly. Resetting it to default seems to have fixed it up

Usually the bug with world generation opening the window again and not being able to click away is fixed by deleting the settings file for Real Ruins. Some settings were added back with 1.4 or 1.5 and it doesn't seem to add those new settings to existing files which causes weirdness.

also get rid of no sympathy for prisoners

@ducky. Throw out prepare carefully and A17 psychology. Those are relics of the past and a liability to your savefiles

I'm having a problem since updating to 1.5 where my game will get stuck on a loop of I guess trying to spawn the planet. I'll tell it to spawn, it'll show the planet in the background, and bring up the planet spawn menu again. I also can't properly access the debug menu when this happens as interacting with it makes it disappear. I've isolated the problem to this mod and I get the error even when it's only necessary mods and this loaded in. This was working for me while running 1.3 with similar mods.

Mods That's my current mod list and I don't know if something there is interfering somehow, but any help would be appreciated because I do enjoy the mod

"we get there when we get there" meme

I beg for an update!

for the very first time the outpost feature has worked. how have i never seen this???

I'm not sure if this is within the scope of this mod, but is it possible that this mod could be used in combination with those that allow you to revisit old abandoned settlements in order to create abandoned and looted ruin versions of your own settlements within the same save? I really want to be able to pack up and leave, but I wouldn't want to be able to come back to the same settlement if its just as pristine as i left it as if raiders and looters stopped coming as soon as i left. This mod is the most advanced ive seen going so far as to replicate builds and "ruin" them, i'd really love it if it could be used in this manner too.

hi @sojalip have you tried changing the mod settings for this mod, for "caravan reform type"? (maybe a different option can help you)

for me, i havent tried any vehicle mods in my 500 mod v1.2 savegame, but usually waiting and defeating all enemies that are either there, or soon will appear, lets me make a caravan, or setting up stockpile zones and then moving to the edge of the map, or using the set-up camp mod, and claiming the ruins as a camp (possibly increasing your vanilla options for max bases to max)

(but always make a backup of your Ludeon folder and saves etc first, to play safe)

hello, in my games (1.5), i use "VVE" and "Rimthunder" mods and each time i try to go back from the ruin (on the world map like other quest/settlement) i can't take my vehicles back with me, the "you have to reform caravan from the world map" isn't compatible with vehicles even with the mod "just leave already". Otherwise i love this mod, beacause of the ruin of course but with the ennemies mech/animal that can guard them it's a good gameplay mechanic.

request to make war urchins to now spawn on starting ruins map

i would also love a update for 1.6

or – when your base was destroyed by someone, the notification could also show in percents, roughly, how well your «opponent» was compatible with your modlist, so you could see how fair it possibly was (maybe allowing the uploading player to mark critical mods that user should absolutely have). I see the notification thing could work as RSS in the days of yore, a simple xml with updates that player dowlonads once in a while. the next level of complexity: a user whose base was defeated have that opponent's base highlighted/spawned on the world map, so he could revenge in a way. well, anyways, thanks for reading and for the mod. I hope you agree that this would be an excellent amount of online/community feel without actual online or multiplayer.