Nevermind, I see. I thought this mod had disabled that before but I guess I was thinking about the proposal changes.

@serios gamer The description shows what the mod does, any changes are shown at the top

Seems like for some reason Rimworld’s (frankly creepy) exception for Straight women pawns having a chance to hit on any woman pawn is still in? I keep having troubles with my Gay woman pawns hitting on Straight woman pawns… I never have this happen with my male pawns. Is this intentionally still in this mod, or is it some kind of oversight?

P.S. - If they end up dating for long enough, it causes proposal rejects 24/7 and is practically game breaking. It got to the point of a -79 mood debuff from the rejects alone

Can we change the probability of a character's sexual orientation?

@KotaJay No idea, never really played with the mod

I'm curious how the sexuality system interacts with Identity: Dysphoria. Does it just go off of birth-sex? I understand you are keeping the system faithful to it's original creation so this isn't a request, just clarifying~

WantToSleepWithSpouseOrLover error should be fixed now

Sure. Here it is. No other mods loaded and a HugsLib log. Hope it helps, @Mlie. https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/29ea39dd16528583c3b1e71d354ba3a9

@Aquiles I asked them to follow the steps described under Reporting Issues. They never did, so hopefully you can do that instead so the issue can be resolved

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean. My player log shows the same message. I saw no need to bump the same log. Only trying to corroborate a bug report.

@Aquiles Then perhaps you can do what they didnt

Exact same problem as @Plaguelord

@Plaguelord Please see the Reporting Issues section described above

Getting a red error spam in 1.6 from this mod, log below:
https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/7dcf05c4acfbee8fce6281e9abf1863d

@dmitrii88 Updating all my mods, see discord for progress

Update 1.6 please

Yeah I came here because I'm having similar issues. Pawns asking for a date for recreation can grab drafted pawns, pawns that are scheduled to work only, etc. It's very annoying when you have, say, some harvesters that you really need to get to work but another pawn is bored and keeps dragging them off.

I have a small issue I keep seeing crop up, but nothing gamebreaking. Pawns asking for a date as a form of recreation can yank drafted pawns away from what they're doing to go on a date (which admittedly is funny). It also seems like dating does not respect allowed areas and pawns on a date can wander outside their currently allowed area. It might be worthwhile to check when a date succeeds if one of the pawns involved is drafted and cancel the thing all together.

@NekoRain_ Sorry, I dont understand the question

Sorry, it’s a translation
Is Faithful invalid? pawn confesses when he/she has a partner

@[AN] Mad Scientist It has support for poly relations but it does not add it.

does this allow for a poly relationship between pawns with no dlc?

May I suggest a feature that allows pawns to mingle still even when they dont need sleep. My pawn just forgets how horny he is now that he got a brand new gene to prevent him from needing sleep.

Ok no problem, I didn't actually catch the part where it was adjustable via settings which is why I bothered to write that whole thing to begin with lmao... Didn't mean to waste your time.

@DocHolliday I wont be changing any of the design decisions the author made. Also, as mentioned, all those percentages can be changed in the mod-options

I figured it wasn't being updated anymore so someone else might change that I guess.

Ah my bad lol

@DocHolliday You should probably post that on the original mod-page so the author of the mod can read it. This is a continued mod as mentioned in the description.

@tatzelwesen It works all right, now I need to figure out what to do with their beds

thanks 4 this, the basegame romance is kinda shit

The config "Base Rate at which pawns will propose dates" is a bit confusingly worded. It behaves like a percentage multiplier on rate of dating, sort of? So when you lower the percentage, it happens MORE often. I noticed this because I kept lowering the value after seeing my pawns have chain hookups like 5 times in a row.

A tooltip or phrasing change could be a good idea.

Are you sure that this is working? I've played with this for a while and didn't encounter any non-monogamous romances yet.

@mlie and @ flashwitt bot are updates to the same mod. One is from versoin 0.17 and two is from 1.2 both seem to do the same things. atleast havent seen a difference.

@flashwitt This has been discussed in the comments before. I did not make any of them as you can see. I just updated them.

I'm a bit confused as to the difference between this mod, and Rational Romance 2, which is also by Rainbeau. Both mods were updated on Apr. 5th, so I presume there's some difference, since you're maintaining both separately, but that difference isn't explained, as far as I can see. Clarification requested.

I have a few questions about point (4):


1. How long after a pawn has been rebuffed will they be able to make romance attempts again?

2. It says pawns won't initiate/receive romance attempts if their opinion of their current lover is high enough. What number is considered to be a high enough opinion of their current lover?

3. Finally, for the part that talks about how the ugly trait affects romantic attraction: is there a stat for romantic attraction? Is it the RomanceChancceFactor that shows up in devmode?

is it possible to make pawns only attempt to romance another pawn once and if it fails they dont attempt on the same pawn? perhaps this could be tied to the faithful and philanderer trait?

After reviewing the code again, yes you are correct: the cultural background affects who attempts to initiate romance as well as age range. Women from "Tribal" or "Imperial" backgrounds are more likely to initiate, as are men from "Urbworld" or "Medieval" backgrounds. The more assertive gender will have a mild preference for younger partners. Other backgrounds have no difference.

The rebuff penalty is patched to be -1 mood w/ a five day duration.

How much does this mod reduce rebuff penalties? I like a lot of the features of it, but I'm a bit hesitant to add it if it changes those too much. I feel like the cooldown between romance attempts should already reduce the mood impact a lot overall.

@gulegule The description for the mod says that culture impacts who is likely to initiate a relationship. Does the age range thing work the same way?

Culture really only affects what age range pawns will consider when potentially starting a romance. Once in a romance it doesn't matter any more.

I looked at VSIE code ~2 years ago, no clue if this still holds:

"I haven't tested VSIE, but based on reading the code: VSIE and this mod are mostly compatible. I don't think either will overwrite the other's patches. Gameplay wise, VSIE only allows same gender dating for pawns with the 'gay' trait. Meaning bisexual pawns will only date the opposite gender. The 'One Night Stand' code seems to ignore orientation altogether."

Also, does it conflict with Vanilla Social Interactions Expanded? As it also includes dating and one night stands.

An absolute essential mod to me, though I am quite ambivalent about the "Makes Culture Matter" point. How much is it supposed to change the pawn behaviour?

Apparently hookups can still happen with incompatible orientations, is that intended?

Great mod with the straight/gay/bi rates set to far more rational (significantly lower) rates.

Thanks!

@Atlas Please see the Reporting Issues section described above

I think there's some incompatability with Biotech, One of my pawns has the "High Libido" xenotype but they literally never have sex with their partner even though they're trying for baby

IIRC the casual hookup activity does obey the extant romance age scaling (which has it's own set of issues), but the 'date' rec activity is more or less platonic. Basically the same as playing horseshoes.

@Default Why should it be impossible?
Opinion aside, there is no way for the game to know if its ok for two pawns to hookup other than that they are in the same life-stage (and even that can fail). Depending on the total lifespan of the pawn, the race, ideology, opinion of the player the approved ages can differ alot.

Significant age differences In dates and hookups need to be impossible, for starters, you could add this somewhere in the code, I know coding is significantly more difficult than just plugging in an age, but my 68 year old pawn should not be going on dates with my 17 year old pawn.

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