ARK: Survival Evolved

ARK: Survival Evolved

Ark Transcendence
Bejork Dibutt 30 Jun, 2019 @ 12:56pm
Other mods
i dont mean if it will affect creatures from other mods, because its kinda impossible the way that im understandingthis mod works, but i just wana ask if it will not create problems with other mods that have more creatures
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UGZ  [developer] 30 Jun, 2019 @ 2:24pm 
If the creatures are not remaps then it will be 100% okay, most mods simply ADD new dinos which is not a remap ;)
KytchenCynk 3 Jul, 2019 @ 3:45pm 
The Better Dinos mod, does that remap dino's or does it simply add new dinos? (Better Dino's mod by Kraken:1)
uFuqinwitme 8 Jul, 2019 @ 12:53am 
@KytchenCynk I had a gander at this mod with Kraken installed aswell, and there are a couple of weird things that go on but I think its on Transcendence's side. I spawned a Rex and it had both the emote and scorn/praise options and the special roar sound files Kraken adds. Didn't try the Carno but I'll see how that one goes in a bit.
uFuqinwitme 8 Jul, 2019 @ 1:26am 
Okay so yeah probably not compatible for the moment, Carno loses BD buff after restarting Single Player. Don't know if its possible with Arks game design to allow both at once.
Bejork Dibutt 8 Jul, 2019 @ 2:44pm 
it whod be very nice if both creators of both mods joined the mods toghether
Theukon-dos 10 Jul, 2019 @ 12:18pm 
I think combining mods would be overkill, but I would love to see them add some compatability for eachother.
Alva 12 Jul, 2019 @ 2:53pm 
Compatibility would be great, as I love everything Better Dinos does but I would love to try this mod out down the line as well. ;o; These two mods honestly go hand in hand in many ways (the size variations in BD among other things), I hope they consider supporting one another.
WipeOutSurfer 19 Oct, 2019 @ 3:16pm 
hi UGZ, great mod and I see only all efects from your mod when I play without other mods use any type of remap.
at this time, I play on my server your mod whit Ark Vanilla Enhanced loading before of yours and get noodle effect, I really like this, but, never see other efects...
If I loading your mod first, Ark vanilla enhanced dont get up =[.
Zera_Fox 28 Dec, 2019 @ 11:37pm 
Originally posted by Ferid Bathory:
Compatibility would be great, as I love everything Better Dinos does but I would love to try this mod out down the line as well. ;o; These two mods honestly go hand in hand in many ways (the size variations in BD among other things), I hope they consider supporting one another.
The problem with this is they absolutely cannot support one another. It's impossible to do so.

The way a remap works is this:
Transcendance sees a Trike is trying to spawn, but says "No! Stop that right now! Instead spawn my Trike instead!"
And if Transcendance is the first mod to tell ARK to do this, ARK will listen and spawn Transcendance's Trike. Ignoring all other mods that wait for a Trike to spawn.

Better Dinos also does this. "I see you want to spawn a Trike, but here's my Trike instead!" So ARK says "Okay!"

They both cannot communicate with ARK at the same time, because they're editing what is spawning.
Despite the fact that removing either mod won't cause your tames to be lost, doesn't mean they aren't the Vanilla creatures.
This is achieved by calling them the exact same names as the vanilla creatures at the root of the file. "Trike_Character_BP". If they were named alternatively such as "Trike_Character_BP_Trans" then you'd lose all your Trikes on uninstall because Transcendance wouldn't be there to tell it what that creature was anymore. It's not a root file name that ARK knows by default.

Now there are some mods out there, like Immersive Taming that reach further down or gets their information from elsewhere that makes it compatible with any mod. It looks for certain tags within files such as "IsCarnivore" or checks it's valid food items.
These are things that ALL creatures in ARK have, this is why Immersive works with any creature that is tame-able.

Because Trans and Better Dinos both edit the creature directly, such as animations, sizes, and other alterations that effect individual creatures. They can never be made compatible with one another.

The only "API" made to make something like this even possible is ARKFrame but I haven't seen that take off at all, which is a shame. And that would require both mods to be made completely all-over again in a completely different way, AND require you to install an additional mod to even get one of them working, let alone both.

Your best bet is pick what you like the best from each mod, and request those features be added to one or the other mod.
Such as the Size Differences added to Transcendance for example.
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