Hey again, and first off, thanks a lot for keeping up this mod, it's one of my favorite mods by far (alongside other B&S mods)!

I have... an odd issue. I think it may be a mod mismatch, so I apologize deeply.

But I think draculs & white roses aren't counted as bloodfeeders. If I have any Dracul or white rose in my colony, they will not help themselves to auto-feed from members of the colony with the "Auto feed bloodfeeders" mod. Every other bloodfeeder will automatically seek out their food source. With VE Aspirations, they will also not get the "become a sanguophage" aspiration from becoming a dracul/white rose.

Other odd issue is that "Sanguophage feed" or "Bloodfeed" option (Biotech) only works on baseliners. And when they do get bit by a dracul, they always get infected, even when not hostile.

Thank you for your time, and sorry for the bother.

https://i.imgur.com/VuDgFnY.png
https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/74351080a1d508fcac852b048f4bac56

man i love everything in this mod except the returned, anyway i can get like a mod option to turn on or off some of the stuff, this mod has quite a few things

Ok! Ty for the info update!

Also for anyone curious, the perpetual darkness of the Glowforests do keep werewolves locked in their proper werewolf form permanently (not the cosmetic bug). So you have constant super healing melee fighters who never sleep, BUT, your colonists are constantly unskilled and having mental breaks all the time due to the -25 werewolf rage.

An really interesting way to run a colony though.

@Dust
I have some code that tries to restore whatever their previous settings were. It is possible they lost the original face data. This can for example happen if the cache is force-cleared via the dev-command.

It could also be a bug causing the data to go missing, or the cache was dropped due to discovering an error when loading a save, etc.

Ok, I am seeing the eternal werewolf bug, sorta. They are reverting and shrinking down, but keeping their wolf faces. No errors when it happens, and only a visual bug (their skills return to normal). But just an FYI. (I did try a full restart, but issue still happens).
I don't have the alien races mod either (I know that can cause issues in the past)

I missed the werewolves were darkness based, rather than time based. Gonna have to test this with the new mushroom biome.

Sounds good thanks for the amazing mod!

@Mortagon
It is quite harmless.

It was a gene blacklisted from AG's wretches, but the gene in question has since been removed.

I'll fix it in the next update.

@Mortagon Its a conflict with alpha genes.

This only occurs with this mod active, not the heaven and hell mod

Getting a red error: "Could not resolve cross-reference to Verse.GeneDef named VU_Disguised_Succubus (wanter=blackListedGenes)
UnityEngine.StackTraceUtility:ExtractStackTrace ()
(wrapper dynamic-method) MonoMod.Utils.DynamicMethodDefinition:Verse.Log.Error_Patch1 (string)
Verse.DirectXmlCrossRefLoader:TryResolveDef<Verse.GeneDef> (string,Verse.FailMode,object)
Verse.DirectXmlCrossRefLoader/WantedRefForList`1<Verse.GeneDef>:TryResolve (Verse.FailMode)
Verse.DirectXmlCrossRefLoader/<>c__DisplayClass16_0:<ResolveAllWantedCrossReferences>b__0 (Verse.DirectXmlCrossRefLoader/WantedRef)"

I'm not sure if this is an error or not, but Dracul don't seem to benefit from the mood bonus of blood torches, probably because they have an alternate bloodfeeding gene.

If you link the errors here or on my discord, I can have a look.

I'm sure the update and DLC has got you an every modder running around like crazy right now but I wanted to let you know that I'm getting an error on the succubus genes with this mod and alpha genes installed. Removing one of the two fixes the error.

Awesome Red, thanks. Don't know if this will help you at all but I've noticed that the transformation only bugs out when reloading a save in game. Exiting the game entirely and then loading back in fixes the issue.

The game started in a desert, by the time the pawn got infected I had moved the colony into temperate forest. No special permanent weather effects.

@Zlygork
Eclipse or special biome? The transformation is based on the same map light values solar panels use.

@Apocrypha
Noted. Thanks. I'll put investigating it on my to-do. :)

My infected pawn transformed into werewolf and never transformed back. He never needs to sleep and is permanently transformed, even during the day

Yeah same issue here. No CE mods but the lycanthrope transformation becomes bugged after while in game.

I have the same mistake with the werewolf. I don't have any CE mods.

I tested by removing all mods besides this one, the official DLCs, and your other race mods, I didn't have CE.

@arget03
I think I set a few of the vanilla xenotypes have a rare chance to show up as returned, but otherwise that shouldn't happen. What is the issue you're seeing exactly?

@StoneByStone
I suspect the loves bites might trigger both. When I designed the abilities I didn't really consider that both might be on the same xenotype.

@Aegael, Level 3 Sentry
Is this with Combat Expanded? If so the werewolf form gets removed due to the werewolf fangs (added by the form) not being set up by the CE people, causing the werewolf form to error and get disabled.

@CrackaJack
Sinew? Admittedly not much. The skeletal returned should probably have some sort of "brittle" weakness along with fragile instead. Perhaps I'll work on them again sometime later.

Is there a way to prevent the genes from randomly spawning on custom/modded xenotypes? I have custom made xenotypes. Randomly one will spawn, that has undead genes. Still the right xenotype and everything, just undead.

I wanted to ask-is there a way to give both the white rose bloodfeed and the dracul bloodfeed at the same time in one bite? I noticed it happen once, but I've been unable to make it happen again.

It seems like hard reloading the game works, but reloading a save in the middle of play messes things up.

There seems to be a bug with the Involuntary Werewolf gene where it stops working after saving and reloading the game. Testing with just the DLCs, Harmony, and all the Big and Small mods, giving a pawn the Involuntary Werewolf gene will have it function as normal but after saving and reloading the pawn appears to get stuck in either their human or werewolf form indefinitely.

Also, when trying to attack anything at night in a werewolf form, the pawn instantly transforms back without even applying one hit and only retains its fangs afterwards

The killer gene on lycantropes is kinda broken, they don't seem to fulfill it while killing downed raiders (downed by the pawn with the gene). I doubt it's a mod issue since the gene itself is from biotech itself, but removing it from the race's genepool or coding a similar gene that works better would be really appreciated!

I wonder if this is where the lost one is made from or is it in the base framework. Either way a colonist came back to life lucky for him we have lots of bionics.

question, what is left to deteriorate on skeletal returned? they have the deterioration gene

lycanthrope bugged as hell. i have a pawn with this genes and equipped with lots of prosthesis, but it suddenly disappeared and make my pawn limbless

I'm having some issues with the lycanthrope transformations. The first few days are fine with pawns possessing this xenotype. Afterward, strange things happen. One instance is transforming back into human but still retaining lycanthrope skin, ears, and tail. Another instance is transforming into a lycanthrope only for the pawn to transform into a larger version of themselves with none of their traits. During this second instance, with facial animation in use, the pawns face reverts to the standard Rimworld face (Black eyes, no mouth) until they transform back during the day. Restarting/Cloning the pawn with character editor fixes the pawn's original form but not the issues with their lycanthrope form.

this mod is amazing but i did find one od thing. the roaming undead and returned count as industrial in technology if the royalty DLC is not instaled. not that big of a deal just a small thing

Thank you for your mod.I've been scrolling through comments for a long time but haven't found the answer. Werewolves remain stuck in their wolf form, whether it's day or night. Restarting the game fixes the werewolves' transformation mechanism, but the error again after playing for a while.

what are the mechanics behind converting a pawn to a half vampire? because it seems somewhat inconsistent in my game. i've had pawns convert when they reach immunity at 90% but that's not always the case. is it intentionally random?

is there a way to "revive" the Returned? Like using a Ressurect Mech Serum on a Returned pawn to make him alive once more?

I think I narrowed it down, and got it a bit more consistent. https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/2fefa11c10a8f00a91cd0f4bb63e73d7

Install mods listed.
Start game with 1 succubus (i did tribal start)
Once game loads, succubus romance person (did male/female)
make bed for them, fast forward till they sleep, or intimate (not sure if it maters).
Save game. Exit game 100%
open game, load save.
do misc things for a bit, save game.
Load game right from the load menu
See error? (pretty consistent for me but dont think its 100%) repeat one more time or second half a few times)

Im going to poke Bradson to see if he has anythoughts incase its fish/prepatcher releated.

I found a bug when a pawn with genes that add new hediffs (for example DraculTeeth or Talons) tries to attack, the attack is interrupted and these body parts are removed, then two errors appear (Exception in JobDriver tick for pawn Morales driver=JobDriver_AttackMelee and Exception ticking hediff (VU_DraculTeeth jaw ticksSinceCreation=279) for pawn Morales. Removing hediff... ) Probably some problems with CE, but until recently everything worked fine.

cant get it consistant :( but its 100% consistant on my main save, maybe its like highmates tweaks to the thought? it only goes away with a full game restart, reloading a save has a 95% chance (think it didnt do it once) to trigger. The bond initiator cant leave the map while this error is going off, but partner can, if partner leaves, the error stops, but continues after returning. ill just suck it up for the time being, maybe someone else will provide somthing someday, or maybe its just somthing in my save?

the melee error was by accident but glad it got found lol/

The other thing is kinda a problem, ill try and find a smaller / more consistent way to do it, but so far not having luck with just vamp etc., tried with just rocketman and not ez either.

The new save log took a few mins but was very random , didnt notice any particular sequence. ill see if i can lock it in better

@mrclumps8973
Try verifying files, the skeletal look wasn't working for a bit.

@Reidlos
Found the with the melee attack when attacking an animal.

Latest framework version should fix it.

Tried to replicate the soul bond error, but with or without Rocketman/Fish/Fishery/Prepatcher I did not manage to do so.

here is a new game, with only Vampires and pre requs, hugs for log and the normal performance set, fishery/perfsih , dubs and optimizer and rocketman.
error took a bit long to pop in this new game, but it did but its a slightly different form?
https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/dd5bc2e9595b7d81ea74d813a5891b3b

bah ill just post the log, sorry this is a messy one, its repeatable very easy, could still be this one particular case, or Mod X causes this when Y. Ill do a only this mod test at somepoint too, hopefully its a easy fix and not a 3rd party interference. https://gist.github.com/HugsLibRecordKeeper/f71234bf2d28c396dfba3cfaa062f273

I got rid of the alert side of the error by disabling in rocketman. but even disabling/Unpatching the bondproxy patch with dubs it keeps. nothing in game I could think of undoes it either, sides maybe forceful break up.

Thanks!

I could do a proper log and test file to get this alot cleaner but if you need a dirty log to see more ill post it, but I am getting this error set with a Succubus thats bonded ONLY after I save game, and reload, either in place or from menu. and its spams slowly but endlessly.
could be somthing else im sure, but wondering if you had any thoughts first.
https://pastebin.com/f70pGitH

Are there any settings or mods that might interfere with the appearance of the skeletal returned? All of the ones I generated on the pawn selection screen looked perfectly human, even if it showed the gene for the skeletal body was active

For some reason I cant seem to find the Bloodfeeder (Dracul) gene which is making it impossible for me to use the 'infect' gene. Can anyone help me out?

It is possible that im misremembering.
Maybe i myself set it to be a normal gene for that old modpack.

@Vulkandrache
Pretty sure it was always archite. You sure you didn't have a mod changing the gene costs?

I noticed that Incoporate has been turned into a Archite gene.
Aside from changing the inheritance at birth has the overall functionalty changed?
In 1.4 i did a run with all genes having 0 metabolic,
and just kept piling on bonuses over several generations.

@Mismagius
It is a bit random and depends on how low their hemogen levels are. If they aren't hungry at all they won't ever bite.

You generally want to avoid it though, they very much can kill their partner, especially if their partner already has severe blood-loss.

If you have mods changing Lovin' behavior it might make the gene fail to trigger. If it still doesn't work then I guess something may have broken after version 1.4